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Bren's Calendar: upcoming SF/F events » ChiCon 8 / WorldCon 2022 » 5/01/2022 10:49 am

xheralt
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I am attending and have a room for WorldCon/Chicon 8.  It's on a quiet floor, so any gatherings there would have to be kabiu,  But I would be willing to play host.

The Cherryh Grove » Unification of Foreigner and Alliance/Union books » 5/01/2022 10:13 am

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There is always great authorial temptation to Connect Everything Together.  It's not always a good thing, look at Robert Heinlein's Number of the Beast.  It was roundly roasted by critics back in the day.  I remember one review saying the protagonists were interchangeable chatterboxes who all sounded alike (or something to that effect), and after meeting the other 'verses, all the other characters were likewise!  Yeah, I can see the point.

The Cherryh Grove » I'm confused on how Atevi society actually works. » 2/24/2022 11:23 pm

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joekc6nlx wrote:

Why didn't the aiji appoint an ateva as a paidhi to the humans?.

"The Human Advantage" is our adaptability, our ability to "go native" with relative ease. Remember, the negotiations to end the War of Landing were being carried out across a fractured and misunderstanding-strewn language interface.  Offering to send in one "harmless" (disarmed) individual is a classic human negotiation tactic, like the cop who lays down his weapons and walks into the bank-robbery-gone-bad full of hostages.  "We send one person" is something that could be communicated across that very very basic initial vocabulary.  The future Mospheirans just wanted to survive, to live and be left alone.

scenario_dave wrote:

The Atevi would never send one Paidhi. One Atevi is unstable. They would have to send an entire household.

Precisely.  This got me thinking about how, on the atevi periodic table, the inert gases that we call "noble" (aloofness and separation being things we associate with nobility) would be "crazy" gases in atevi chemistry textbooks.  Noble elements to them would be highly reactive, mixed in with everything.

scenario_dave wrote:

But an Atevi household who lived with humans would change. Their manchi to the mainland might fracture. They'd go native.

Not so much.  For adaptability to be the human advantage, the atevi have to be less so, for contrast.  Give or take extraordinary individuals like Tabini and Geigi, who took 200 years to arise.  The atevi household would be a point of stability, a clearly demarcated enclave within Mospheira.  There would be challenges, to be sure.
 

The Cherryh Grove » Foreigner/Chanur parallel? » 2/24/2022 9:25 pm

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Personages and Aijiin are likewise built on the same motif.  Atevi are the distillation and ultimate expression of ideas/tropes that CJ explored in her previous books.

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