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- HRHSpence
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None at the moment, but we're expecting plenty of smoke from the Cali fires as soon as the wind shifts!
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HRHSpence wrote:
None at the moment, but we're expecting plenty of smoke from the Cali fires as soon as the wind shifts!
Makes sense. I meant in general though. I am not sure whether LV is prone to wildfires.
Silver lining possibility: it will be a decade before the burned areas are restored. My friend is seriously considering a transcontinental relocation nearby!
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Feds regulatory boy put a stop to insurance corps canc/non-renewing those peoples policies for 1 yr. The horror will start after that with complete withdrawal in CA, hikes to all other CA areas to make up for the loss, hikes to all other areas of the country regardless of fire hazards,. Wait fir it.
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Some of the policies implemented in the last few years in California (Water management, forestry management, and personnel decisions) have really helped worsen this natural catastrophe. The rest of the western states should learn a lesson from all of this. Southern Nevada is a desert, so we have been forced to stringently husband our water resources. We have a few mountains with sparse forests on them that can catch fire easily. So, we don't have the same problem as California, but we do get their smoke and smog a lot.
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"Fuel loads were the problem. Fuel loads and human folly. It was many generations before the white man learned to imitate the firestick’s effect by burning off small patches of land. Sir Thomas Mitchell, New South Wales’s Surveyor-General in the 1830s and 1840s, illustrated the change when he wrote that without the ‘natives to burn the grass’, thick forests of young trees had sprung up ‘where, formerly, a man might gallop without impediment and see whole miles before him’. Those thick young forests, rather than being thinned by small, periodic burn-offs, grew even denser and more tangled. Leaves, branches and dead trunks compacted into a dry, incendiary carpet on the forest floor as lantana wound itself through the impenetrable undergrowth. Long hot summers baked every trace of moisture from the scrub, which intermittently exploded in vast apocalyptic firestorms."
from John Birmingham's award-winning Leviathan: The Unauthorised Biography of Sydney, Random House Australia.2000
Methinks Australia and parts of the USA have long had a similar problem. Political blame games are never going to solve it, neither here nor there, sadly.
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All I am saying is that we should learn from previous generation's experiences, such as your Australian settlers learning from the aboriginals. The present crop of Californians think that humans are the master in every domain. But, it's not nice to fool with Mother Nature! She bites back and those who have built up the coast of Cali with no regard for climate and resources surely feel it now. We should learn from this experience even if we haven't from previous ones.
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I thought some Native American societies pre-colonisation had similar practices. I need to re-read Mann's 1491, if I can find my copy.
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Yes, many pre-Columbian Native American tribes in California practiced controlled or prescribed burning of undergrowth as a form of land management. This practice, often referred to as "cultural burning," was an intentional and sophisticated way to manage forests, grasslands, and other ecosystems.These burns were typically low-intensity fires that mimicked natural fire cycles. They played a key role in maintaining the health of ecosystems, preventing the overgrowth of vegetation, and fostering habitats for wildlife.The suppression of these traditional practices, particularly after European colonization, has been linked to the buildup of dense underbrush in forests, contributing to the more severe wildfires seen in modern times. There is growing recognition of the value of these indigenous techniques, and some regions are reintroducing cultural burning as a tool for sustainable land management.
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The first colonists in the mid Atlantic area wrote about being able to drive a carriage and team through the forests.
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Yep. Just because it was no longer a problem in Europe or Eurasia didn't mean it didn't exist elsewhere ...
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