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10/30/2024 1:30 pm  #21


Re: Alliance Unbound

I've been pondering the date issue too.

 

10/30/2024 4:15 pm  #22


Re: Alliance Unbound

Ok.  My thinking on the date question is this:
1.  We have a hard date for the founding of Union and the start of the Company War at 2300.
2.  We also know from elsewhere (exactly where I can't remember) that both Finitys End and Dublin were launched in 2281.
3.  Allow a couple of years at either end to cater for ship and route shakedowns at the start, and then Cyteen politics at the other end and we end up with about a 15 year window for the action in these two books.

Thoughts, anyone?
 


It's a strange world.  Let's keep it that way.
 

10/30/2024 7:56 pm  #23


Re: Alliance Unbound

I need to review the A/U timeline (/edit, nevermind, it ENDS in 2300).  
Of course, continuity is not herself’s forte.  

Last edited by Aja Jin (10/30/2024 7:58 pm)

 

10/31/2024 8:12 am  #24


Re: Alliance Unbound

A post from the old site by smartcat, in 2019.  Oddly, Cyteen is missing.I'd assume it goes after Second Company War and before (or early in) Union post-war

Here is a list Jane put out earlier this year:

As requested: an Alliance/Union universe timeline. 

Events leading up to the First Company War: Hinder Stars
Alliance Rising 

Events leading up to the Second Company War: Sol System

Heavy Time 
Hellburner 

End of the second war:
Downbelow Station 

Sol Post War: Sol's expansion toward Ursa Major stars rather than Barnard's (Tau Ceti)

The Pride of Chanur 
Chanur's Venture 
The Kif Strike Back 
Chanur's Homecoming 
Chanur's Legacy 

Union Post War: 

Forty Thousand in Gehenna 
Regenesis 
Alliance Post War

Merchanter's Luck 
Rimrunners 
Tripoint 
Finity's End


***
And BTW, the rumored/promised (by CJ) Allaince/Union history has never appeared.
 

Last edited by Aja Jin (10/31/2024 8:16 am)

 

10/31/2024 4:41 pm  #25


Re: Alliance Unbound

Thanks for that reminder, mahe.  Some people here may not have seen that, and it does make a useful overall framework for a more comprehensive Alliance-Union timeline.

Some of the books do have hard dates embedded and I have been able over the years to work up a more detailed specific timeline of events in certain books and speculate about others as new books appear. This book is no different in that regard - more possible answers but also more questions raised.

 


It's a strange world.  Let's keep it that way.
 

11/03/2024 7:13 pm  #26


Re: Alliance Unbound

Ok.  It has been a few more days, some of which I have spent in frantic re-reading or skimming of other AU books to remind myself of ... things.

Does anyone want to talk about the elephant in the room?  I think it could be quite spoilerific for other existing books and limit possibilities for another book in this sequence.

You do all know what I'm referring to here, right?
 


It's a strange world.  Let's keep it that way.
 

11/03/2024 9:18 pm  #27


Re: Alliance Unbound

Surtac wrote:

Ok.  It has been a few more days, some of which I have spent in frantic re-reading or skimming of other AU books to remind myself of ... things.

Does anyone want to talk about the elephant in the room?  I think it could be quite spoilerific for other existing books and limit possibilities for another book in this sequence.

You do all know what I'm referring to here, right?
 

Maybe start a spoilers thread?  And, what elephant ? 

 

11/29/2024 1:49 am  #28


Re: Alliance Unbound

Aja Jin wrote:

A post from the old site by smartcat, in 2019.  Oddly, Cyteen is missing.I'd assume it goes after Second Company War and before (or early in) Union post-war

Here is a list Jane put out earlier this year:

As requested: an Alliance/Union universe timeline. 

Events leading up to the First Company War: Hinder Stars
Alliance Rising 

Events leading up to the Second Company War: Sol System

Heavy Time 
Hellburner 

End of the second war:
Downbelow Station 

Sol Post War: Sol's expansion toward Ursa Major stars rather than Barnard's (Tau Ceti)

The Pride of Chanur 
Chanur's Venture 
The Kif Strike Back 
Chanur's Homecoming 
Chanur's Legacy 

Union Post War: 

Forty Thousand in Gehenna 
Regenesis 
Alliance Post War

Merchanter's Luck 
Rimrunners 
Tripoint 
Finity's End


***
And BTW, the rumored/promised (by CJ) Allaince/Union history has never appeared.
 

I have not yet read either of the Alliance books. But just want to comment that I believe - and please correct me if I am mistaken - the famous comment about Earth having found intelligent civilizations/aliens in another direction, seemingly referring to Chanur - occurs in Cyteen. That would plausibly place Cyteen after Chanur, and in Union Post War.


One world -- or none
 

11/29/2024 2:19 am  #29


Re: Alliance Unbound

Star, you are absolutely correct.  I think you and I may have had this discussion before.  The alien Compact is explicitly mentioned by name in Cyteen.  And that book gives us hard dates for other events that help to bookend a timeline for the Chanur adventures.

 


It's a strange world.  Let's keep it that way.
 

11/29/2024 1:08 pm  #30


Re: Alliance Unbound

Surtac wrote:

Star, you are absolutely correct.  I think you and I may have had this discussion before.  The alien Compact is explicitly mentioned by name in Cyteen.  And that book gives us hard dates for other events that help to bookend a timeline for the Chanur adventures.

 

Precisely. And yes, we have had many illumining and enjoyable discussions of the mysteries that emerge from Cyteen!


One world -- or none
 

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