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I am getting annoyed with it, I am nearly 75% through and while there have been some moments, it seems he takes us one step into understanding what’s happening and two steps back. It is certainly deliberate, Mieville has an idea he is working with and he is skilled, but what I like is a story, and characters I can engage with. The characters become somewhat more engaging but the story remains imo unnecessarily obscure. I am a completionist so I will finish it, but I can’t argue with any of you who put it down. It is reminding me of a lot of books that try to describe the indescribable, which is usually when they deal with magical effects, and here the context is what has usually been seen as on the magical side but it’s being addressed in as scientific a way as possible (which is not very). It’s deliberately unclear, because I think Mieville thinks what he is talking about is impossible to put into words, and he is deliberately demonstrating that, if that make sense, it’s not that he can’t write about things that are hard to describe, it’s that he is refusing to do that here to make a point. But it makes for very tedious reading.
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Finished it, a bit of a gallop to get to the end. I do feel he worked hard at this, but it really didn’t work for me at all. There are two narrative threads, Maur and Allardyce. They are essentially chronological, but out of joint temporally, for various reasons but in part I suppose so Mieville could keep some secrets from the reader in Maur’s timeline. The structure is artful, even perhaps one might say masterful, and the writing also, but boy it was not in the least an enjoyable read, for me.
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Kokipy wrote:
Finished it, a bit of a gallop to get to the end. I do feel he worked hard at this, but it really didn’t work for me at all. There are two narrative threads, Maur and Allardyce. They are essentially chronological, but out of joint temporally, for various reasons but in part I suppose so Mieville could keep some secrets from the reader in Maur’s timeline. The structure is artful, even perhaps one might say masterful, and the writing also, but boy it was not in the least an enjoyable read, for me.
Sorry it wasn’t enjoyable, K. And not to be a curmudgeon, but your comment summarizes my experience w CM in general. I guess I like who I like and don’t who I don’t.
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I want to describe a poor reading experience I have had recently. Perhaps it’s my fault: who would go to an AI, tell it my preferences and wishes, and read what it suggests? Somehow that got me to The Gone World by Tom Sweterlitsch. I had not heard of him before. I am 70% in.
The book started out well enough - propulsive, vivid, promising. Some quantum mumbleygook crossed with police procedural, and a looming end of the world ahead. But somewhere that throbbing loading icon turned on, and it hasn’t stopped spinning. I got through the first half in a week or so, but got to 60% a month and a half ago. Somehow it’s gotten complicated, repetitive, silly, and I find myself reading on, unsure if I’ve read that page before. All the pages are sounding the same. The plot has become overly complicated and cloying. The recent pages repeat in my brain as I’m trying to sleep. I just want it to stop. Or move beyond. And I’m stuck, unable to quit. Maybe the author intended to replicate the experience of floating infinitely toward an event horizon, never reaching it. If so, the book is a success.
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Kokipy wrote:
Finished it, a bit of a gallop to get to the end. I do feel he worked hard at this, but it really didn’t work for me at all. There are two narrative threads, Maur and Allardyce. They are essentially chronological, but out of joint temporally, for various reasons but in part I suppose so Mieville could keep some secrets from the reader in Maur’s timeline. The structure is artful, even perhaps one might say masterful, and the writing also, but boy it was not in the least an enjoyable read, for me.
I made some good progress into it over the weekend and, fwiw, I am still very much enjoying it. Yes, the slow pace is annoying in places but the level of background detail and layering of elements of meanings hinted at is, to me, quite beguiling. I'll say no more on it for now, nut I am starting to see other connections buried in what I've read so far. More later.
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starexplorer wrote:
I want to describe a poor reading experience I have had recently. Perhaps it’s my fault: who would go to an AI, tell it my preferences and wishes, and read what it suggests? Somehow that got me to The Gone World by Tom Sweterlitsch. I had not heard of him before. I am 70% in.
The book started out well enough - propulsive, vivid, promising. Some quantum mumbleygook crossed with police procedural, and a looming end of the world ahead. But somewhere that throbbing loading icon turned on, and it hasn’t stopped spinning. I got through the first half in a week or so, but got to 60% a month and a half ago. Somehow it’s gotten complicated, repetitive, silly, and I find myself reading on, unsure if I’ve read that page before. All the pages are sounding the same. The plot has become overly complicated and cloying. The recent pages repeat in my brain as I’m trying to sleep. I just want it to stop. Or move beyond. And I’m stuck, unable to quit. Maybe the author intended to replicate the experience of floating infinitely toward an event horizon, never reaching it. If so, the book is a success.
Double=posting to note that I've never heard of the book or its author before either, but it will be added to A Certain List for further investigation when current reading committments allow. ![]()
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Surtac, I really want to hear your thinking on The Rouse. Eagerly watching this space for more
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Star, I wonder if your book was written by AI, in fact😳
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Kokipy wrote:
Star, I wonder if your book was written by AI, in fact😳
💡!
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I am now reading Exit Party by Emily St John. It’s gotten a bit depressing![]()
also I have just seen some posts on social media suggesting that men don’t enjoy reading books by women in general, because women write about feelings and relationships and the men in question prefer sci- fi. Which got my attention as you might imagine. I believe that we have many brilliant men in this community who enjoy many female authors and in particular many female sci fi authors, am I quite correct about that?
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Kokipy wrote:
I am now reading Exit Party by Emily St John. It’s gotten a bit depressing
also I have just seen some posts on social media suggesting that men don’t enjoy reading books by women in general, because women write about feelings and relationships and the men in question prefer sci- fi. Which got my attention as you might imagine. I believe that we have many brilliant men in this community who enjoy many female authors and in particular many female sci fi authors, am I quite correct about that?
Kokipy, absolutely you are correct about that.
I confess I also saw some similar social media posts like that this morning, and my immediate reaction was 'what utter garbage!'. Anyway, fwiw, I already have Exit Party on my future reading radar, bu I want to finish my Olga Tokarczuk and Jo Walton backlogs befoe I get to it. ![]()