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Re: Unification of Foreigner and Alliance/Union books
I really liked the Morgan Saga. It was my intro to all of CJ's books.
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At the beginning of the books, a short reference is made to the Alliance science bureau's writings about the gates. .
It's actually the Union Science Bureau that is quoted, but Yes - the books are at least initially anchored into the AU universe.
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At the beginning of the books, a short reference is made to the Alliance science bureau's writings about the gates. .
It's actually the Union Science Bureau that is quoted, but Yes - the books are at least initially anchored into the AU universe.
The A/U toe-in feels like a fix-up, but the link to A/U never manifests itself in the stories.
I’d love to get the story of the creation of Changeling. Doesn’t seem to be from the Union Science Bureau. Maybe they found it in a goblin barrow.
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I have recently begun reading the Morgaine Cycle, a series that I now regret waiting so long to start. At the beginning of the books, a short reference is made to the Alliance science bureau's writings about the gates. Late in the story, a short appearance is made by one of Vanye's distant relatives, Nhi Bren. Vanye kills him in combat, all within the same page that Bren is first named. Although not specifically stated, it is implied that Bren's body disappears with many of his fellows into the void of Morgaine's sword.
I now firmly believe that when people die in the Alliance universe, their souls are not just cast into the void or pass on to what their religions believe. I think those souls are passed on into the universes of other publishers! This is the only connection I need.
Excellent thought! Evokes the runaway commercialism driving the human race!
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There is always great authorial temptation to Connect Everything Together. It's not always a good thing, look at Robert Heinlein's Number of the Beast. It was roundly roasted by critics back in the day. I remember one review saying the protagonists were interchangeable chatterboxes who all sounded alike (or something to that effect), and after meeting the other 'verses, all the other characters were likewise! Yeah, I can see the point.
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Hmmn. Michael Moorcock and the Eternal Champion, anyone?
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I’d love to get the story of the creation of Changeling. Doesn’t seem to be from the Union Science Bureau. Maybe they found it in a goblin barrow. [/quote wrote:
A rather "Stinging" remark, yes?
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There is always great authorial temptation to Connect Everything Together. It's not always a good thing, look at Robert Heinlein's Number of the Beast. It was roundly roasted by critics back in the day. I remember one review saying the protagonists were interchangeable chatterboxes who all sounded alike (or something to that effect), and after meeting the other 'verses, all the other characters were likewise! Yeah, I can see the point.
I agree with you. And it’s not only an authorial impulse but a readership impulse as well. Welcome in, btw!
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Didn’t Asimov do it also in the end? I seem to remember he linked the robot books with some other story arc which had been unrelated up to that point. It was unsatisfying. Kind of, perhaps, related to how some felt when Rey turns out to be the emperor’s granddaughter. Ultimately this feels like a failure of imagination.
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Yes, I believe so.
And, iirc, Larry Niven did something similar in his Known Space universe - apparently because some fans told him how it could be done.
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